Analysis of Faction Balance in the Uldir Raid



Comment by VindicatorElinra

on 2018-12-01T10:42:12-06:00

I think Sco said it best on Allcast a month or so ago. There’s no viable reasoning to raid on Alliance. They have no racials worth swapping to for any PvE sitaution.r
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And that statement amplified further when Blizzard downgraded all the racials to 1% and 2%s now there’s even less reason to roll Alliance. r
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Faction imbalance is purely a Blizzard made and sustained problem.

Comment by Drorith

on 2018-12-01T10:44:31-06:00

That’s really interesting

Comment by m2geek

on 2018-12-01T10:46:03-06:00

Emerlad Nightmare? I don’t remember that raid.

Comment by Rykoth

on 2018-12-01T10:51:15-06:00

Maybe this is why I’m not a raider and why I’m a roleplayer, but the idea of swapping faction willy nilly and changing races for passives and one ability seems ludicrous. Horde from day 1 and no change to passives or abilities will change that for me.

Comment by Castrum

on 2018-12-01T10:51:30-06:00

Raiding as Alliance ud83eudd23ud83eudd23ud83eudd23

Comment by CaptainDope

on 2018-12-01T10:56:14-06:00

This is a snowball effect. Since more and more raiders realize that players are moving to the Horde side because they have better racials, they too will then change faction so that they are all on the same side, making it easier to recruit raiders and join raiding guilds.

Comment by Gogeta1990

on 2018-12-01T10:59:12-06:00

The only way to fix faction balance is something like:

* Make all racials purely cosmetic (it’s impossible to balance active troll berserk vs passive stat gains)
* In addition, offer temporarily free or greatly reduced cost for swapping horde => alliance.

But of course, something like that would cost Activision some amount of $$$, so we can’t have that sadly.

Comment by FunkyJam

on 2018-12-01T11:05:24-06:00

The only way to fix action balance is something like:r
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* Make all racials purely cosmetic (it’s impossible to balance active troll berserk vs passive stat gains)r
* In addition, offer temporarily free or greatly reduced cost for swapping horde => alliance.r
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IMO the first suggestion is really good, whereas the second would be an unfair decision because it favors one faction over another.

Comment by Anaide

on 2018-12-01T11:11:13-06:00

IMO the first suggestion is really good, whereas the second would be an unfair decision because it favors one faction over another.Current faction balance already favors one faction over another. And it’s only gets worse over time.

Comment by Luck4

on 2018-12-01T11:12:39-06:00

I think Sco said it best on Allcast a month or so ago. There’s no viable reasoning to raid on Alliance. They have no racials worth swapping to for any PvE sitaution.

And that statement amplified further when Blizzard downgraded all the racials to 1% and 2%s now there’s even less reason to roll Alliance.

Faction imbalance is purely a Blizzard made and sustained problem.
This is the most truthful first post, I’ve ever seen!

But to be honest with you guys, I want to see things getting worse, everything catching fire, just to know where is the bottom of this.

I hope more and more people leave the Alliance untill nothing is left.

Comment by Gogeta1990

on 2018-12-01T11:12:51-06:00

The only way to fix action balance is something like:

* Make all racials purely cosmetic (it’s impossible to balance active troll berserk vs passive stat gains)
* In addition, offer temporarily free or greatly reduced cost for swapping horde => alliance.

IMO the first suggestion is really good, whereas the second would be an unfair decision because it favors one faction over another.

Yeah, I’m aware, but sadly a perfect 100% balanced racial pool STILL offers no incentive to swap from horde to alliance, just cause the recruitment pool on the horde side is so much bigger atm.
So people have no interest in pumping loads of money into transferring to the underrepresented faction.

Racials were the spark that ignited the faction imbalance fire, but now we’re in a full blown wildfire that just stomping out the spark doesn’t do anything anymore.

Comment by MaXiiczek

on 2018-12-01T11:14:04-06:00

The only way to fix action balance is something like:r
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* Make all racials purely cosmetic (it’s impossible to balance active troll berserk vs passive stat gains)r
* In addition, offer temporarily free or greatly reduced cost for swapping horde => alliance.r
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IMO the first suggestion is really good, whereas the second would be an unfair decision because it favors one faction over another.r
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I’m not sure if you understand the problem, but favoriting one faction over another is the reason why majority of top raiders are Horde… to solve this, you either need to remove this favoritism (remove or rework racials) or give some favoritism to the other side to balance it, this wont solve itself 🙂 well, unless Blizz think it’s ok 🙂

Comment by Lostelf

on 2018-12-01T11:14:31-06:00

Faction balance only seems to affect the top 1% of players.r
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Most YouTubers Iu2019ve seen are Alliance. Should I start complaining about that?

Comment by Vremon

on 2018-12-01T11:16:30-06:00

unbalanced its a word that its specific for blizzard company after wotlk expansion..not just faction are unbalanced gameplay in pvp..and a lot more things

Comment by Sorkara123

on 2018-12-01T11:17:36-06:00

Alliance were always the ones with the best pvp racials and horde had the best pve. However, Horde dominate both anyway. I think it’s simply down to there being far more horde players now than alliance, for a multitude of reasons.

Comment by Tagioalisi

on 2018-12-01T11:18:06-06:00

Which ones? The method guys: all horde. Jak, Sloot Naguura? Also Horde. Also once faction balance is noticable in Heroic completions, you can’t really talk about it “only affecteing the top 1%” anymore

Comment by mysticalos

on 2018-12-01T11:23:41-06:00

This is a snowball effect. Since more and more raiders realize that players are moving to the Horde side because they have better racials, they too will then change faction so that they are all on the same side, making it easier to recruit raiders and join raiding guilds.r
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I mean, it’s more recruiting than anything at this point. It’s harder to recruit alliance side than it is horde side, period. Guilds like Something Wicked died because of this. The racials got players there, but the snowball effect is now that there are more on x side vs y side, even if they balanced the racials today, it wouldn’t change people still going horde for recruitment needs. the only way blizzard can fix this is to make alliance racials BETTER than horde, or do some kind of free faction migration where they go “ok, you can faction change your entire guild for free to alliance”

Comment by Kekt0nic

on 2018-12-01T11:28:23-06:00

The only way to fix action balance is something like:r
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* Make all racials purely cosmetic (it’s impossible to balance active troll berserk vs passive stat gains)r
* In addition, offer temporarily free or greatly reduced cost for swapping horde => alliance.r
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Even if they gave free faction changes people are not just gonna up and leave their friends and guilds. r
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We meme about “literally unplayable” and all that stuff but this is probably one of the few things in game that can’t be fixed.

Comment by Menrecht

on 2018-12-01T11:31:36-06:00

Not only racials influence faction balance. Horde got a headstart when warfront was released: They were able to farm gear without ilv restriction and they were also able to do Arathi rares one additional time. They were (and still are) one warfront period ahead.r
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In first few weeks (at least on EU) horde was also favoritized by emissary rewards: They were able to get 340 ilv weapon and other pieces of gear (which was pretty decent at that time) and aliance got 3 times a row 700g reward.r
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And donu00b4t forget warmode (hordemode) problems + add those 340 ilv weapons and gear from warfronts/emissary. Yeah it was certainly better to begin raiding as horde, you could get ilv advantage or decent gear with less/no effort at all.r
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Now take a look at minor, but for some players important things: mounts, toysu2026 Who is getting more/better rewards?r
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If I werenu00b4t happy in my aliance guild, I would be horde already.

Comment by Coldaria

on 2018-12-01T11:43:13-06:00

Can easily fix the racial imbalance by just giving the mirror race the racial of the other. I.e. Draenei and Blood Elf would both have Gift of the Naaru and Arcane Torrent (Blessing of Belore and Light Torrent). Players would then decide which race to choose based on the passive increase best suited for the class instead, which shouldn’t make too big of difference in game play between the two factions.



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