July 24 Hotfixes, PvP Tuning Changes for July 25th, Hunter and Mistweaver Tier 21 Set Bonuses


Comment by Filthly

on 2017-07-24T14:06:02-05:00

They should just rework the T21 4pc for Mistweavers and leave the 2pc as an absorb, we REALLY don’t need more overhealing…

Comment by Lutenantj

on 2017-07-24T14:10:46-05:00

Seriously, Blizzard? Despite as much outcry as we can make, there is no change to Survival’s Tier 21 bonus? The one designed such that certain builds for the spec will get literally no use out of it, and the ones that can will be extremely minimal?

Comment by Agentkillerlee

on 2017-07-24T14:30:46-05:00

Love the Holy Priest PvP nerfs, they were way too stupid. Woulda liked to see MWs dropped a little more but I’ll take what I can get.

Comment by deathlavitz

on 2017-07-24T14:35:30-05:00

I was hoping they would undo the huge nerf to BM hunters in pvp, but alas i was wrong.

Comment by Nazthori

on 2017-07-24T15:32:50-05:00

“Hunter T21”

What about the laughable bonuses that are survival’s T21? Rework? Please?

Comment by Clarkis2001

on 2017-07-24T15:49:59-05:00

Love the Holy Priest PvP nerfs, they were way too stupid. Woulda liked to see MWs dropped a little ore but I’ll take what I can get.

Agree with all of this. Also, as a Destro, I’m all about the Armor and Versatility bonuses. Though, I feel armor really doesn’t mitigate a lot of damage in itself. You have situations like Balance Druids where they had WAY too many talents/traits that interacted to buff it way too much, but the Cloth VS Leather VS Mail VS Plate damage reduction doesn’t feel noticeable in PvP.

That’s my take anyway, but I play casters and healers (save my ^&*!@#$).

Comment by Agentkillerlee

on 2017-07-24T16:30:12-05:00

Love the Holy Priest PvP nerfs, they were way too stupid. Woulda liked to see MWs dropped a little ore but I’ll take what I can get.

Agree with all of this. Also, as a Destro, I’m all about the Armor and Versatility bonuses. Though, I feel armor really doesn’t mitigate a lot of damage in itself. You have situations like Balance Druids where they had WAY too many talents/traits that interacted to buff it way too much, but the Cloth VS Leather VS Mail VS Plate damage reduction doesn’t feel noticeable in PvP.

That’s my take anyway, but I play casters and healers (save my ^&*!@#$).

I literally main a Hpally, which is really good in PvP if you know how to play it, however no one will take the chance cause they prefer the facerolls of MW and HPriest over me.

The HPriest Nerfs will probably help out a lot.

Comment by Rilgon

on 2017-07-24T17:11:25-05:00

Seriously, Blizzard? Despite as much outcry as we can make, there is no change to Survival’s Tier 21 bonus? The one designed such that certain builds for the spec will get literally no use out of it, and the ones that can will be extremely minimal?

You wanna start a club for specs with absolutely garbage T21 bonuses? We can sit around and drink soda and lament not getting outrageously titanforged T20. 🙁

Comment by GreySage

on 2017-07-24T18:49:21-05:00

Love the Holy Priest PvP nerfs, they were way too stupid. Woulda liked to see MWs dropped a little ore but I’ll take what I can get.

Agree with all of this. Also, as a Destro, I’m all about the Armor and Versatility bonuses. Though, I feel armor really doesn’t mitigate a lot of damage in itself. You have situations like Balance Druids where they had WAY too many talents/traits that interacted to buff it way too much, but the Cloth VS Leather VS Mail VS Plate damage reduction doesn’t feel noticeable in PvP.

That’s my take anyway, but I play casters and healers (save my ^&*!@#$).

As a Outlaw rogue (Pure physical damage), the tank > cloth disparity is HUGE, but there is also the fact that Pallies, DKs, Wars, and DH are just super OP and 1 shot everything, no matter who they fight.

Comment by Borotva

on 2017-07-24T19:24:19-05:00

Love the Holy Priest PvP nerfs, they were way too stupid. Woulda liked to see MWs dropped a little ore but I’ll take what I can get.

Agree with all of this. Also, as a Destro, I’m all about the Armor and Versatility bonuses. Though, I feel armor really doesn’t mitigate a lot of damage in itself. You have situations like Balance Druids where they had WAY too many talents/traits that interacted to buff it way too much, but the Cloth VS Leather VS Mail VS Plate damage reduction doesn’t feel noticeable in PvP.

That’s my take anyway, but I play casters and healers (save my ^&*!@#$).

As a Outlaw rogue (Pure physical damage), the tank > cloth disparity is HUGE, but there is also the fact that Pallies, DKs, Wars, and DH are just super OP and 1 shot everything, no matter who they fight.

GreySage, You misunderstood what Clarkis2001 said… He talked about the difference between cloth-leather-mail-plate dmg reduction. That’s true it’s just idiotism there’s no visible difference between them… ( I saw a lot of times warriors tanking in cloth heirlooms with no problems )

The spec is what makes difference here, you do low dmg to tanks due to their mitigations and def cds.
The armor increase of destro locks (which is a pvp buff in Blizz’s point of view) is just a joke… I loudly laughed when read it 😀

Comment by Shelassa

on 2017-07-25T00:15:40-05:00

Just for pure interest’s sake, gotta try pairing the 4P + Convergence of Fates + Call of the Wild + maaaaybe Qa’pla, Eredun War Order just to see what the total CD of Aspect of the Wild can be reduced to. Too bad Thunderslash has been nerfed, it seems like the 4P could have been interesting together with Dire Frenzy.

Altogether I’ve gotta say that T21 looks less appealing than T20 and even less so compared to T19, especially for poor Survs out there.



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