Story of the Afterlife and Shadowlands – Who Touched Vol’jin’s Spirit? – Lore Collab with Nobbel87



Comment by kodora1316

on 2019-03-17T18:17:55-05:00

Vol’jin was my favorite warchief throughout my entire time playing WoW. I miss him 🙁

Comment by Vordred

on 2019-03-17T18:34:22-05:00

u201cThere was a presence. Something moving in the shadows. Something powerful.u201dr
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My money is on the old schemer… N’Zoth. Broken Shore was near where Well of Eternity used to be, right?

Comment by Caerule

on 2019-03-17T18:44:03-05:00

I’m not sure who whispered to Vol’jin. But, for bringing him back? I have a theory there.r
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Keeper Tyr. The fallen Titan Keeper, who lost his hand to great evil (Galakrond) and replaced it with a silver one. The figure the Silver Hand, Tyr’s Hand and Tirisfal Glades are named for.r
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I think he could be a great candidate for the “Hand of Valor” that now resides in the Shadowlands, looking after the good of Azeroth.

Comment by Utigarde

on 2019-03-17T18:56:27-05:00

This article seems a bit biased against Sylvanas, failing to touch on her reasoning for doing all her stuff with the Val’kyr during Legion, and why she struck a bargain to gain control of Eyir. r
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The Horde Darkshore Story rewards Brynja’s Beacon, which turns all Spirit Healers into Val’kyr. In this questline, the concept of Forsaken and free will is called into question as several raised Night Elves formerly hated Sylvanas. The flavor text on this item, “It is said that only the most powerful can dominate the wills of the risen,” implies that perhaps there is something more to the newly-risen Night Elves.r
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This part in particular is a bit disingenuous, and stating interpretation as fact. This doesn’t really imply that there is anything with free will to do with the night elven dark rangers at all. In fact, throughout BfA, we’ve seen that the Val’kyr explicitly raise free willed undead, both with these night elves, and with Derek. If they could raise forsaken bound to their will, there would not be any need for Sylvanas to have to condition Derek. We’ve had the reasons for the night elves joining the forsaken explained fairly well, both in the introduction questlines and in the warfront itself. They lost faith, and in Sira’s case, have personal grudges.

Comment by lizymoon

on 2019-03-17T18:57:44-05:00

I hope Helya and Sylv team up to kick Odyn in the nuts, hate that baffoon. Also, still not over what he did to Helya.

Comment by perculia

on 2019-03-17T19:09:04-05:00

This article seems a bit biased against Sylvanas, failing to touch on her reasoning for doing all her stuff with the Val’kyr during Legion, and why she struck a bargain to gain control of Eyir. r
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The Horde Darkshore Story rewards Brynja’s Beacon, which turns all Spirit Healers into Val’kyr. In this questline, the concept of Forsaken and free will is called into question as several raised Night Elves formerly hated Sylvanas. The flavor text on this item, “It is said that only the most powerful can dominate the wills of the risen,” implies that perhaps there is something more to the newly-risen Night Elves.r
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This part in particular is a bit disingenuous, and stating interpretation as fact. This doesn’t really imply that there is anything with free will to do with the night elven dark rangers at all. In fact, throughout BfA, we’ve seen that the Val’kyr explicitly raise free willed undead, both with these night elves, and with Derek. If they could raise forsaken bound to their will, there would not be any need for Sylvanas to have to condition Derek. We’ve had the reasons for the night elves joining the forsaken explained fairly well, both in the introduction questlines and in the warfront itself. They lost faith, and in Sira’s case, have personal grudges.r
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I would view it a bit differently; the wording says “implies” and “perhaps” which shows it’s an interpretation and not factual. The raising of Delaryn and Sira still seems a bit fishy, even after the PTR revisions–Sylvanas specifically wants to raise Delaryn which to me implies that there’s a degree of humiliation/Arthas parallels going on. Perhaps it is bad quest writing, but it seems off that both elves, after being so loyal to the Night Elves, do a 180 personality change and fight in the Warfront with a vengeance. Sira was just fighting for Tyrande minutes ago. The 8.1 questline also shows that the val’kyr are raising more races than before, which also points to something changing/strengthening with their powers, and we also have evidence of a raised Blood Elf.r
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Regardless of what control Sylvanas exerts over others, I believe she would still need to raise Derek specifically for her plan of infiltrating the Proudmoores–his unique position as Jaina’s brother sets him apart from others she could believably raise and infiltrate the family.



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